like a lot of issue we are dealing with, immigration, how we reduce our deficit have strong feelings. we think if you look at the public on some of these measures, i think knute newtown changed the debate. sadly, it took a tragedy like that seeing a lot of people. by the way you democrats and republicans think differently about this issue, post that tragedy. so i think it's going to take a lot of work, it's not going to be easy. but we think we can get to a point, as we said, i think there are 60 votes in the senate, 219 votes in the house, if the process can just play itself out and we can really get votes on some of these things we think. but it's going to be hard work. >> what's -- as far as you're concerned, the window in a second term for a president to get something done? we certainly hear 14, 16 months and then he's kind of in lame duck status. >> i don't believe that let's look at where we are now, not like casting about -- roaming the halls of the house looking for things to do. whether it is deficit reduction, energy, gun control, safety, immigration, these are all stacked u